миф о фальсификации выборов

[Olia]

Я бы не поднимала эту тему, но именно сейчас начинаются разборки с так называемыми "фальсификаторами выборов". Почти все телеканалы наперебой твердят про фальсификацию второго тура. При чем, фальсификация, по их мнению, была там, где большинство проголосовало за Януковича. Про все районы я не знаю, конечно, но как можно было на обычном городском участке, где были представители и от Януковича и от Ющенко, каким-то образом подделать результат?

А, вот, в третьем туре - это факт - на тех участках, где большинство за Януковича, не хватило бюллетеней. У меня знакомая работала в комиссии. Так при подсчете голосов ее за руки держали, не давали посмотреть, что там в бюллетенях написано. Ну, про то, что списки ночью подменили, я, вообще не говорю. А председатель комиссии - был за Ющенко. Это ли не фальсификация? Но его, конечно, никто трогать не будет.

Но самое страшное, что нам активно продолжают навязывать этот миф о фальсификации второго тура. Это для чего? Чтобы подозрений не было?

[Русин]

...Но самое страшное, что нам активно продолжают навязывать этот миф о фальсификации второго тура. Это для чего? Чтобы подозрений не было?..

Самое главное, что эта деятельность их и погубит - обнаглеют и обязательно погорят. А наглеют они постоянно

[Olia]

Теперь сфальсифицирован оказался не только второй тур выборов 2004, но и все предыдущие выборы тоже. Так, в Киеве проходил пикет с требованием привлечь мэра города Одессы Боделана к ответственности за фальсификацию выборов 1998, 2002 и 2004 годов...

[Mandrake]

[Ольга Киевская]

1. Ющенко- наш президент.
2. Если победил Янукович - это фальсификация, т.к. см.п. 1.


Бред это все. В первом и втором турах ходила голосовать. Не видела ни одного нарушения в пользу Януковича, зато в пользу Ющенко - дважды. Причем, наглейшие.
О явке в 148% на западе Украины не говорит уже только ленивый.
В третьем туре вообще лишили права голоса 3 миллиона человек. На юге и востоке бюллетени заканчивались к 12.00, списки подняли с первого тура, с кучей ошибок. И это не фальсификации?
Реально "всенародный" набрал не более 35% голосов.

[Mandrake]

In 2004, the Kuchma system outdid itself. Viktor Pinchuk and Rinat Akhmetov acquired the privatized Kryvyi Rih steelworks, although their bid was $800 million lower than that of a consortium led by US Steel. One favor deserves another, so Akhmetov helped to finance the presidential campaign of Kuchma's prime minister and handpicked successor, Viktor Yanukovych. Had Yanukovych become president, Ukraine would have remained independent, but its resources would have been even more tightly controlled by a few oligarchs.http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17957

[Mandrake]

Last September, several weeks before the election, he was poisoned by a dose of dioxin. The first symptoms appeared after he had dinner with senior secret police officials, although no connection with the poisoning has yet been definitively established. He returned to the campaign with his formerly handsome face horribly ravaged by severe acne and scar tissue. This, he said, "is the face of Ukraine today." The Kuchma administration secretly instructed television channels to call the claim of deliberate poisoning a "bare-faced lie" and a campaign trick.[6] A TV channel owned by Viktor Medvedchuk, an oligarch close to Kuchma, suggested that Yushchenko's illness was caused by questionable personal habits.
Despite all these obstacles, Yushchenko won a plurality in the first round of presidential elections last October 31. On Sunday, November 21, during the second round, the Kuchma regime coordinated a campaign to falsify the voting results. That evening, it announced a victory for Yanukovych with a margin of about 3 percent. President Vladimir Putin hurried to congratulate him. However, independently commissioned and Western-funded exit polls made it clear that Yushchenko had won a decisive victory.


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That same Monday, many Ukrainian diplomats, both in Kyiv and abroad, announced their "total and unconditional support" for Yushchenko. Their statement was e-mailed around the world
The whole country speaks Russian!" said a plainly irritated President Vladimir Putin during the orange revolution.[11] In fact, the country is bilingual. Soviet policies ensured that educated Ukrainians spoke Russian, a kindred but quite distinct Slavic language
Today there are young people in western Ukraine who cannot spell in Russian, and there are many Ukrainians and Russians in the south and east who never speak Ukrain-ian.
Yushchenko and Tymoshenko speak better Ukrainian than Kuchma and Yanukovych do. They also speak better Russian. They are both easterners, proof that Ukrainian identity is not limited to the west. Yet they know that they have to make their case to the miners and steelworkers in the east. Immediately after the revolution each traveled to Donetsk, Akhmetov's eastern bastion, to face the doubters. The "goddess of the revolution" appeared on Akhmetov's television station. Facing hostile questions in Russian, she held her own. "The whole country speaks Russian!"—the words may not be as comforting to President Putin as he seemed to believe.
Putin's government angrily accused the United States and the European Union of stirring up the orange revolution from abroad. Almost daily, the Dutch foreign minister—the Netherlands then held the rotating presidency of the European Union—received angry telephone calls from his Russian counterpart.
Some members of the European Union—Britain and the Netherlands were singled out by one Ukrainian activist—gave significant direct support to election monitors as well as to Ukrainian students, professionals, and other groups from civil society.
What of the American involvement in the election? The US government— and individual American donors—did more to support Ukrainian democrats than Western Europeans did. The US State Department has said it spent $65 million in Ukraine over the last two years.
So were the very large sums poured into Yanukovych's campaign by Russian sources, which have been estimated in the Russian press to amount to some $300 million. So were the Russian political advisers who hel
Leonid Kuchma wrote a book called Ukraine Is Not Russia. Now Putin is writing a book called Russia Is Not Ukraine."




http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17957

[Mandrake]

Almost before the final votes were tallied, international election monitors raised allegations of widescale fraud. According to the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (osce), which sent in observers to watch the balloting, there were "highly suspicious and unrealistic" turnouts in key Yanukovych areas. Monitors recorded acts of harassment, intimidation and multiple voting, and noted that the list of the country's eligible voters mysteriously grew by 5% on election day. Senator Richard http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/article/0,13005,901041206-832153-2,00.html

[Bagira]

Ты уверен,что кто-то это будет читать?
Я даже не пыталась

[Bagira]

Сейчас уже пошла другая пьянка: оказывается, что выборы в парламен 2006 г будут сорваны оппозицией, которая до сих пор не смогла предложить ничего конструктивного.

Короче. Что в лоб, что по лбу

[Mandrake]

[adversarius]

[Mandrake]

Ты об етом пишеш в интернете но вот от людей я такого не слишал.На вопрос че нового дома?Как там Янукович?Слишу ответ: "да ходит там идиот и страйкует".Вряд ли ето говорит о том что они сечас за него.

[adversarius]